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” A .22 Long Rifle will not penetrate a Zombie Skull. I don’t know why I see people praising this weapon all day long as the Ultimate Zombie Killer. Riddle me this, If it’s such a great weapon why doesn’t any of the World’s Armies use it as their choice of weapon. The only Armies you will see using it for training is the almighty Boy Scouts of America, The British Air Training Corps, and the Australian Army Cadets. Other than that isn’t it used to hunt Rodents, Rabbits and such? Is it just because you can’t afford a real weapon or just some childhood fond memory ? You tell me because I don’t know what to make of it.”
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It will penetrate the skull but only at a short distance (50-60metres) so you want to make sure you dead on the money first go
I’d prefer something with a little larger calibre but atleast you’ll find an abundance of .22 cartridges
hey dipshit, a .22lr will penetrate a zombies skull, very easily in fact, you gotta figure that a standard issued military m4 carbine fires a .223 caliber round. do the math. a .22 most likely wont go through a zombies head but will go through one side, and crack the other while bouncing around in the head turning the brain into jelly.the bullets are also very small and the guns are very cheap with makes them a go to for a zombie apocalypse. the only reason there not issued to the military is the lack in strength and punch, thank you very much.
dude just because the caliber is .22 vs .223 has absolutely NOTHING to do with the size of the bullet and power. Yes maybe the width of the bullet is almost the same but look at the MAJOR difference of gun powder behind each one. look at the difference in casing size. Thats like saying a 7.62×25 is just as powerful as 7.62 NATO. Bro, their are people who have been shot in the head by a .22 and survived cuz the bullet bounced off their head. There was even this lady on a talk show who had gotten shot by her ex boyfriend with a .22 and the fucking bullet got stuck in her weave!!!
I would have to agree, An AK47 is alright but the Mosin Nagant will put a dent in your shoulder if you are not careful shooting it. That is the difference between 7.62×25 and 7.62×85. People do not understand how these rounds work. A .22 is good for body wounds close range, I would know, I have been shot in the arm with a .22, It really did no damage. Just a little scar. Plus there is no point in trying to compare a .22 with A .223, The round is bigger and has more penetration power.
Lucifer .. the AK47 is 7.62x39mm, the Mosin Nagant fired 7.62x54mm … the 7.62×25 is the Tokarev pistol cartrige ..
also the .22 LR has a velocity of (40gr solid rnd) average of 1080 ft/s and standard .22 cartridge can have a ballistic range of up to 1.5 miles (but @ 400yrd its dropped by half to 500ft/s). The .223 Remington (36gr JHP is at 3750 ft/s) and over double the size (overall length including case). So the .22LR will (at close range — 50 yards +/-) penetrate the skull
AK47 is 7.62×39 and a Mosin Nagant is 7.62×54. 50 and 15 is a big difference, don’t exaggerate.
“A .22 Long Rifle will not penetrate a Zombie Skull.”
Uh, so are you some kind of zombie biologist or what? I’m just asking because I’m wondering what change takes place that suddenly makes a zombie skull tougher than a normal human skull? Oh, and IF you’re SO sure that a .22 LR will not penetrate a human skull maybe you would like to go out to the range with me next time I go and wander around doing your best zombie impression out at about 100yds and I’ll see if I can get through your skull with a .22LR round?? Hmm? Sorry, what’s that? NO?!?! yeah, I didn’t think so.
If You Self Load You Can Make Your Own Mode Round Mod & Poder Too.
Yeah poster is smoking his own stash. http://www.ruger1022.com/docs/israeli_sniper.htm
One of the BEST military forces in the world use it. And the fact that you can suppress it and go subsonic would just be a plus. It is just a tool one of many available it has a role to play and it does it very well.
that article has nothing to do with skull penetration. yeah, OF COURSE it can be a lethal weapon against humans… A .22 round hitting center mass can enter a human, bounce around, hitting several vital organs, killing him…
they use 22′s to put down cows before they butcher them…and a cows skull is thicker than a humans
Ok, I’ve read a few comments here saying it “WILL” without a doubt penetrate a skull. This is FALSE, .22 short vs a .22LR is a HUGE difference, however, that doesn’t mean it “WILL” (Without a doubt) penetrate a skull of ANY animal (Man or Wild). there IS a possibility but that lays at a 50/50 chance (depending on distance, grain, windage, projectiles flight path) and there have been several RECORDED cases of people being shot almost point blank and the projectiles skimming off their head. Now, as for .22 Vs .223 that is a WHOLE other issue, that is like comparing a .50 cal Barrett to an anti-material rifle (80-120mm) the difference is too huge to even class them. So before making silly comments like “hey dipshit, a .22lr will penetrate a zombies skull, very easily in fact, you gotta figure that a standard issued military m4 carbine fires a .223 caliber round.” do your homework.
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The Sighzer
to the person that compared a .22 lr to a .223 rifle, good comparison, but thats like comparing a .357 sig to a .357 magnum. much more powder behind the .223, and alot longer of a projectile. a .22 would be lethal in a headshot to about 30 yards, after that it becomes iffy. and the chance of most people being in a high pressure situation of hitting a headshot is not likely. a .22 pistol would be a good side arm because the ammo is plentiful, and the situation you would use a pistol would easily leave you in the lethal range. not to say the chance of skull penetration isnt possible beyond 30-40 yards, its just no where near as likely as say a .223 or a actual full rifle round like a 300 or a .308. id say keep it as an absolute fall back or as a food hunting weapon, but dont rely on a .22 for all your zombie killing needs. i will be using my .40 carbine for my defence
To all the jackasses that posted before, yes it has the capability to penetrate a human skull. For the 9000th time, zombies aren’t the biggest threat during Z-Day. You really want to go after raiders with your varmint gun while they’re firing 7.
62′s and 5.56′s back?
A .22 LR will penetrate the skull, and probably make mush of the inside. A.22 short would not go through the skull. I’d prefer a much bigger caliber myself.
yeah, imma shoot them all in the head like i do in COD…. rofl
A .22 is know as the assassin gun because it has enough force to go in but not to go back out it just stays in and bounces around
There are a multitude of reasons to go with a .22lr. Before I address penetration, and force, here are some of the other reasons to consider a load out including a .22lr;
First, minimal wear and simplicity in design. As I’m sure you understand the higher the caliber of the weapon, the more violent its action is. There is a direct correlation between long-term wear, and chamber size. Not only because of the powerful discharge when fired, but also because of sulfur and carbon buildup on the firearm from every shot fired.
If you have to strip and clean your weapon more often, you’re vulnerable more often, and you’re using more supplies to do so.
Next, for anyone who has owned firearms, it is understood that each are unique, and must be practiced with consistently to be effective. The more you practice, the more rounds shot from your weapon of choice, the better you are. But ammo is expensive. You will spend $125.00 for 200 rounds of .45acp range ammo. $200.00 for hollow points. But you can buy a box of 525 .22lr for $19.95.
On top of that, they weigh the same between the two.
Now lets talk about kick and speed. Law officers are trained for an average engagement to be 5 feet away within 1.5 seconds from the time they see the gun. With zombies, you have to hit them in the head. How quickly can you find your sites, find your target, fire, and repeat on different moving targets? I will tell you this; It’s a heck of allot easier when your gun doesn’t kick. This why competitive speed target shooters use .22s
Unless you’re this guy…
Another thing; the ideal engagement is going to be unobstructed at 100 yeards. Please don’t be foolish enough to think that will be the case most of the time. If the dead should come back to life, expect to have to draw, reload, and act quickly on multiple targets for all of your engagements.
Ok, now to the important stuff. I did a little searching, and came across this.
It’s allot to read, so here is an overview:
-Both he and his son shot a .22lr at distances up to 300 yards.
-The target was a 7†turkey with 3 layers of clothing in front and back.
-Winds were measured at 18-30 mph on range.
-Accuracy was measured at ~40% at 300 yards.
-All hits were clean through. That’s 6 layers of clothing, duck tape, and 7†of thawed turkey, and bone. (Yes, he did say bone.)
Thanks, I hope this helps
A .22 Long Rifle will not penetrate a Zombie Skull? Yes it will, people die every year from being shot in the head with 22lr. That ends that right? No! But it can take down feral dogs or even a deer; it is a favored weapon of assassins. It will kill. The big advantage is the size and weight of ammo. If you are trying to be mobile; and you don’t have the tons of support that it takes to keep a soldier in the field. You’d need something light, and reasonably quiet. Something that you can pack in butt loads of ammo for, or find ammo in the field. The 22lr fits that. Yes you will have to place your shot accurately, and you will not be able to run and gun, like in Zombie Village. But, as I will be humping a modified Ruger 10/22, and a mark III pistol. I am going to advises you to go with a Barrett M82 “Light Fifty”. I think it has the stopping power and rang you are looking for, and will keep you out of the hair of the rest of us. And good luck Zombie food.
The term ‘ballistics’ is a relative one. Would I like to shoot it out in an reenactment of the Battle for Stalingrad? No, but it was a .22 caL that took the life of Robert Kennedy with one shot to the lower right side of his skull. A .22 very nearly killed Pres. Reagan with a body shot that lodged near his heart. He only surived because he was rushed immediately to the hospital and was tended to by a team of crack physicians. If a .22 cal cartridge is so meaningless, I’d like to see the average person take a steel ice pick and jam it into their knees at 12-1400 ft per sec and ‘shake’ it off.
Each shot delivers approximeately 250 ft/lbs of energy but hold a 250 lb weight, 1 ft over your head and drop it in a deadfall onto your head and see if it eventually starts to affect you. More game and murders are collected and performed by a .22 cal cartdrige than any other calibers.
is the 22 lr Ideal…Maybe. poachers kill hundreds if not thousands of deer and the ocasional Elk both whos skulls are thicker then ours; with 22lrs beacause they are cheap and quiet. they will kill prarie dogs out past 100yrds but that’s a waste of time and ammo. I think a member posted that you can reload 22lr. i don’t believe you can due to the way the primer is poured into the case. better off buying the heavy loads (60grn i think is the biggest) O and if you don’t feel comfortable with it get a bigger gun. my 22 will stay in my truck for when/what ever i may need it for.
haha…you guys, have you ever thought that these Rifles are almost useless if the zombies are in more in number lol !
0.23 or 0.233 blah..blah..none of them gonna work in situation(and yae ya can’t stick to secondary ammo like pistols and sub-machine guns for a long time).
So I suggest the best cure A “FLAMETHROWER” Smell the meat burn haha…Burn’/babby .’burn. !